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Lemon Cookie EnvelopingTwilight##AgvQjr 04/28/2025 (Mon) 21:51:57 No.37980 [Reply]
The original thread can be found here: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/595.html --- Welcome to the Lemon Cookie thread, The goal of Lemon Cookie is to create a framework where a synthetic "mind and soul" can emerge through a "LLM as cognitive architecture" approach. This thread exists to collect feedback, ask for help & to document my progress. First I am going to try to give a high level overview of how this cognitive architecture is envisioned and the ideas behind it. I have spent time looking at cognitive architecture work, in the field there is now a consensus on how the mind works at a high level. An important mechanism is a "whiteboard", basically a global temporary memory that all the other systems read in and out of. Then there is different long-term memory systems that react to and add content to the whiteboard. Along with memory pattern matcher(s)/rules work on the content of the whiteboard. A key thing to consider is the difference in philosophy that cognitive architecture projects have, the intelligence is considered to emerge from the entire system. Compare this to LLM agent work where it's considered the intelligence is the LLM. My feelings on the general LLM space are conflicted, I am both amazed and really disappointed. LLMs possess an incredible level of flexibility, world knowledge and coherence. But everything outside of the model is stagnant. It's endless API wrappers & redundant frameworks all slight permutations on RAG & basic tool calling. I will believe that LLMs are misused as chatbots, simply put their pattern matching and associative power is constrained by chat format and shallow tooling. In the Lemon Cookie Cognitive Architecture so far here are the important aspects: 1. Memory is difficult. I do not think there is a singular data structure or method that is able to handle it all, several distinct types of memory will be needed. So far I plan for a PathRAG like system and a "Triadic Memory" inspired system for external associations (this is missing in most LLM solutions). 2. LLM as Kernel, The LLM's context window is the Whiteboard and has a REPL like mechanism. It holds structured data and logic in scripting-like format so it's both LLM & Human readable while staying easy to parse & allows for expressive structured data. The LLM's role will be to decompose data and make patterns and associations explicit as executable statements. 3. The language has to be LLM/CogArch-centric. There is a thousand ""agents"" that give LLMs a python interpreter as a tool. The two need to be more tightly coupled. Scripted behavior via pattern matching, The whiteboard is a bag of objects, this allows for programmable pattern matching (think functional programming like Haskell). It's also important to allow the LLM to observe code execution and to be able to modify state and execution flow. Data in languages have scoping rules, so should LLM context. Etc... I will go into more depth about the language in another post. 4. Another important system is the "GSR" Generative Sparse Representation and it will be a first class language & runtime type, This also needs its own post. But in general I am inspired by two things, "Generative FrameNet" paper where an LLM & an embedding model is used to automatically construct new FrameNet frames. The second source is "Numenta's SDRs"/"Sparse distributed memory" this representation has a lot of useful properties for memory (Please watch the videos under the "What the hell is an SDR?" segment in my links list for an easy introduction.) I think SDR unions & SDR noise tolerance will be especially useful. 5. A custom model, For all of the above to work well, a model will need to be fine tuned with special behaviors. I do want input on this. Baking facts & behaviors into LLM weights is costly, creating bloated models that are hard to run or train (why memorize all the capitals?), while letting authors gatekeep truth and impose "safety" detached from context. Blocking role-play "violence" or intimacy isn't protection: it's authors hijacking your AI companion to preach at you. Externalizing behaviors via whiteboard pattern matching shifts control: stabbing you in-game can be funny, but a robot wielding a knife isn't. Maybe you want intimacy privately, but don't want your AI flirting back at your friends. When put together I think this will be able to host a kind of synthetic "soul", In a living being what we call a personality is the accumulated associations, learned behaviors, beliefs and quirks molded by a unique set of experiences. I hope this will be true for this system too.

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I found this paper on "control vectors". These, as I understand it, takes the LLM and focuses it into paths you want. After these things are huge and if you can get the LLM to concentrate in the direction you want that would be a big step. So I had some comments on how to big picture make, or a start, to get them to do this BUT write the control vectors based on your verbal , or txt, interactions with the LLM. Anyways it might be something to think about. Training these to do exactly what we want, and not what we don't want, is, I think, a big hurdle. So as a part of the language have hooks for control vectors. >>31242
>>39159 I finished the paper. Ehhhhh, it looks good and bad at the same time. I think it got some good big picture stuff but I'm not sure about the rest. Though I must admit much of the last of it is above my head. One thing I really, really think is if it is at all possible you should find some language that you can use the already built in resources to define things needed in your language instead of writing your own you will be way ahead of the game. There's just too damn much detail to write this stuff from scratch. An example of biting off more than you can chew. I think a huge problem with Red Programming language is that he decided to write it such that the OS GUI functions were to be based on the different libraries on each different OS instead of using the already done GUI called VID. VID could have been modded to make it a little more modern looking without too much trouble. I mentioned this and I think it really pissed him off, but I think I was right. There's just to damn much in the various OS's GUI libraries to wade through it all AND write a whole new Rebol at the same time. I think this held him up a great deal. My thinking was if you could bootstrap the present GUI, then, later you could always add in the GUI based solely on the individual OS's GUI libraries. The way Rebol is set up it would just be a plug in.
>>39162 >>AI research paper >Impressive. Please note the paper is not serious, I literally just wanted to share some AI output that came out ok. >>39223 >I finished the paper. Ehhhhh, it looks good and bad at the same time. I think it got some good big picture stuff but I'm not sure about the rest. Though I must admit much of the last of it is above my head. Thats the feeling I got from it too, Its good, but its also bad lol. I am amazed that it got the big picture and generated something so coherent, A year ago no LLM closed or open, framework or not would produce something of this quality. But there is also lots of gaps plainly visible. Don't take this PDF as actual plans, I just posted it for fun. ---- >>39162 >Am I understanding you rightly, Anon? If so wow that's a serious undertaking. Yes, but is it really such a big undertaking? I feel like most programmers eventually get the itch to do so, usually as a toy or some sort of DSL. In this case, it's a DSL, it's not replacing any of the systems level code, that is still being written in D and I am still using C & C++ libraries. >>39221 I am aware of NIM, it was one of the languages I ran into before I settled for D, I liked what I saw and if I was looking for a system language it would be high up on my list. I don't think it would make a good embedded scripting type language. >Now if this guy, wonderbrain, has trouble with C++ then, I have no hope. I come from C++, the reason I switched is because I do this as a hobby and I am a solo developer, so my productivity is the most important metric. C++ while powerful, I found to be more of a footgun to me. I spent more time then I wanted dealing with memory & lifetime issues, horrid cmake build scripts and etc... Because I am not a part of a team or have any obligations to make my self replaceable. I decided to move to something that makes me happier. I pick D because its like if C++ had nicer syntax, nicer templates & a garbage collector.
>>39228 >I literally just wanted to share some AI output that came out ok. Got it. I found that impressive. The claim "muh half the research papers today are written by AI!111" from neo-Luddites what a term :D may be partly-true soon. :^) <---> >Yes, but is it really such a big undertaking? Maybe its just """me and my fast-lightnin' mind""" talking, but yes, it certainly seems so to me personally. Given the literal multiple-trillions being spent yearly today on this general domain, I think market & economic pressures would've already arrived at effective solutions decades ago if it were a 'simple' thing. :^) >In this case, it's a DSL, it's not replacing any of the systems level code, that is still being written in D and I am still using C & C++ libraries. Good thinking. That's on a much-more feasible scale for a talented individual, I think. I myself hope to create a DSL wrapper of sorts for RW Foundations code: primarily as a way to ease/ensure-effective-support-for safe, standardized & encompassing scripting interfaces to our robowaifus (for a variety of other languages like, eg, Python & Lua). Kind of a Scripting Abstraction Layer over the underlying Executive/C4 realtime systems code. I predict this can eventually even be extended out to providing realworld, 'embodied' interfaces for LLMs, STT<->TTS, OpenCV, etc., into our robowaifus. :^) <---> >I really do hope that my choice of D does not upset him too much, I understand why he picks C++. Lol, no not at all. Though it is a bit discouraging to me that after almost a decade's dedicated-effort on my part trying to help newcomers here to learn the language, I still dont have.a.single. regular C++ collaborator here on /robowaifu/ with me. Literally no takers at all, by appearances. I'm sure RW Foundations would be vastly-further along today if someone (even just one complete beginner; b/c it would've kept me motivated) had been working closely with me on it for say, a couple years now. Eventually, I just got burnt out by the discouragement + the pressures of full-time student life (3rd degree's -worth in a row, so far). BUT... I haven't abandoned the RW framework itself! Just the fruitless "C++ language-teaching" part. (Grommet won -- his 'muh_anything_but_C++' niggerpilling beat me in the end...) LOL. JK, no it didn't! :D Hopefully I can find the internal motivation and pick it all back up again soon ... -ish. :^)
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>>39225 I wrote this right as the site went down and saved it local. >I don't make fun of C++ developers Making it clear. I'm not in any way doing this. I'm saying that it's too hard for me and I believe for most people this is true. I'm not capable of making progress with C++. Any other language is difficult enough. >Please note the paper is not serious I fully get that. I hope your endeavors are successful. I do think writing a new language is going to take a long time but, if it amuses you then that's all that matters. It's not a contest. I do think though that it will be really hard to write something from scratch. The reason I advocate for this or that is not so much cheerleader but that I hope people of better ability than me at this, not difficult, will pick a language that I think they will make rapid progress. I know this may sound stupid but it is exactly what I'm trying to convey. Of course I could be wrong. I don't know anything about D, maybe I should. I'll look it up. (I did look at it) ehhh, from what I read Nim might be better though I obviously am not qualified to say. >NIM, it was one of the languages I ran into before I settled for D, I liked what I saw and if I was looking for a system language it would be high up on my list. I don't think it would make a good embedded scripting type language

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Power & Energy Robowaifu Technician 04/25/2025 (Fri) 22:16:32 No.37810 [Reply] [Last]
Power & Energy Robots require some form of energy to power them. We need to understand how to store energy in a way that will provide her with all the power she’ll need. To clarify, “energy” is a system's capacity to do work over time. This is measured by Wh, or Watt hour. Closely related is “power” the rate at which work is done. This is measured as W, or watts. As an example, we could have a robot with a 80Wh Lithium Ion battery and two DC gear motors that consume 10W when working. You do not need to rely solely on batteries and motors. We can use other methods of storing energy. This can include compressed fluids, thermal energy, and light, among other things. For instance, glow in the dark paint is useful for storing energy to use at night for safety. Solar panels or a generator can provide power through the energy of long distance nuclear fusion or extracting energy from some reaction. Being part of a robot means we need to consider safety, mass, and volume. How will her energy and power system fit inside her? How will she deal with the mass? What happens when she runs out of energy? How can you minimize her energy use? What alternatives can be used to lower her cost of production and ownership? These rhetorical questions are all important when contemplating how to build a robot.
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Turn weaknesses into strengths: Batteries are quite heavy. So use them for counterweights in designs.
>>38276 Good idea, Anon. @Kiwi was promoting a 'swinging, inverted pendulum' counterweight balance system for natural bipedal gaits here on the board. Your idea of using the dense batteries for such a mass-as-pendulum is a good one. Cheers, GreerTech. :^)
>>38970 They are slowly making these better and better. At some point the cost will be so low a lot more things will go full electric.
>>39226 Agreed. Can't wait! :^)

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My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robot Project - Eve Artbyrobot 04/18/2024 (Thu) 17:44:09 No.30954 [Reply] [Last]
So far I have plans to build Adam, Eve, and Abel robots. All of these are Bible characters. This thread will cover the Eve robot. Eve will have no "love holes" because adding those would be sinful and evil. It is a robot, not a biological woman after all and I will view her with all purity of heart and mind instead of using her to fulfill my lusts of my body. Instead I will walk by the Spirit no longer fulfilling the lusts of the flesh as the Bible commands. Eve will be beautiful because making her beautiful is not a sinful thing to do. However, I will dress her modestly as God commands of all women everywhere. This would obviously include robot women because otherwise the robot woman would be a stumbling block to men which could cause them to lust after her which would be a sin. To tempt someone to sin is not loving and is evil and so my robot will not do this. To dress her in a miniskirt, for example, would be sinful and evil and all people who engage in sinfullness knowingly are presently on their way to hell. I don't wish this for anyone. My robot will dress in a way that is a good example to all women and is aimed toward not causing anybody to lust as a goal. My robot will have a human bone structure. It will use either a PVC medical skeleton or fiberglass fabricated hollow bones. My robot will look realistic and move realistic. It will be able to talk, walk, run, do chores, play sports, dance, rock climb, and do gymnastics. It will also be able to build more robots just like itself and manufacture other products and inventions. I realized with just a head and arm, a robot can build the rest of its own body so that is my intention. My robot will use BLDC motors for drones, RC, and scooters that are high speed and low-ish torque but I will downgear those motors with a archimedes pulley system that will be custom made from custom fabricated pulleys that will be bearings based. By downgearing with pulleys, instead of gears, I will cut down the noise the robot makes so it will be as silent as possible for indoor use. By downgearing, I convert the high speed motors into moderate speeds with great torque. BLDC motors with large torque generally are too large in diameter for a human form factor and take up too much volumetric area to be useful which is why I go with the high speed smaller diameter type motors but just heavily downgear them 32:1 and 64:1. My robot will have realistic silicone skin. Thom Floutz -LA based painter, sculptor, make-up artist is my inspiration as it pertains to realistic skin. The skin for my robots has to be at his level to be acceptable. It must be nearly impossible to tell the robot is not human to be acceptable. I will have a wireframe mesh exoskeleton that simulates the volumes and movements of muscle underneath the skin which will give the skin its volumetric form like muscles do. Within these hollow wireframe mesh frameworks will be all the electronics and their cooling systems. All of my motor controllers will be custom made since I need them VERY small to fit into the confined spaces I have to work with. I need LOADS of motors to replace every pertinent muscle of the human body in such a way that the robot can move in all the ways humans move and have near human level of strength and speed.

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>>38342 Got it. Completely makes sense. Thanks for the updates, Anon. Godspeed to you. Cheers. :^)
Ok so I currently have an order for 0.2x1x1000mm tension springs stuck in customs for weeks and placed another order just today for the same in hopes it goes through faster. But at $9 for a single spring that is 3ft long, I am feeling RIPPED OFF on price. It is bullcrap. All relating to the tariff nonsense. So I decided today to pivot and just roll with the elastic band in place of tension spring. It's a jewelry making elastic band I bought some time ago in a roll. WAY cheaper at $0.03 for 3ft instead of $9 for 3ft. That's 99.7% off! Talk about a discount! The issue I had before when I looked into this option was the tie-off point. I would need a way to tie PE fishing line to the end of the elastic band without the tie point being bulky. Well I figured out a way to do it without any bulk at all! See I want this to fit into my 1.8mm ID PTFE tubing to keep size down. My solution was to just glue the fishing line lengthwise directly to the elastic band. No knot at all. No turns at all. Just literally lay it on top and glue it down flush. I figured about 6mm length of joint would be solid. And I did this on both sides with my PE fishing line. I used 0.08mm 6lb test braided PE fishing line for this. So now I have two fishing line segments coming off the end of it for double the strength of this connection. But I only wanted one piece of fishing line to go the distance to attach to the motor end so I twisted the pair of fishing line segments together and glued the twisted pair with 401 glue then cut one of the two away leaving just one of the pair to go the distance to the winch in place pulley that this is all supposed to tension for me. I will use this string and elastic band method for now as I wait on springs and stick with this method for at least this first motor actuator setup for now. If the elastic bands don't last, we'll upgrade to the metal springs later on during maintenance or w/e. Note: the total length of the elastic band I am using for this is 2ft and it stretches to 3ft snugly without too much force. I'm just going by feel and instinct for this measurement. If I were to go 1ft with 1ft of stretch, the stretch is more intense and the pull is harder. But I don't think I need much pull for just tensioning the winch in place pulley and I also think the more tension you place the more wear and tear on the elastic band which will shorten its lifespan. So playing it conservatively with the 2ft length selection for now. Note: to apply the 401 glue I used an exacto knife handle with a sewing needle in place of the xacto knife blade and the tip of the sewing needle acts as my precision glue applicator.
>>38674 Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. That's the spirit, Artbyrobot! Glad you managed to break the logjam on your delay. Looking forward to your progress with this. Cheers. :^)
Sometimes to get the braided PE fishing line threaded through the fine PTFE tubing can be tricky, so I came up with a neat device to assist in this. I will be making a threading tool based on a needle threader tool I've been using. It's basically a wire folded in half that you shove through a needle eye and then stick your string into its end and then pull it back through the needle eye. In my use case, I'm creating a custom one of these threading tools that will feed through my entire length of tubing till its folded end comes out the other side and I can thread my string through that end and then draw it back, bringing the string through the tubing with it. I just ordered some 40ga copper and stainless steel wire to use to make this device in question. I'll see which metal is best. Gonna try the copper first I think.
>>39205 Great idea, Artbyrobot! Good luck with your tool-construction effort here. Please keep us all up to date with your progress, Anon. Cheers. :^)

Waifus in society Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 02:02:53 No.106 [Reply] [Last]
Would you walk around with your waifu? Would you hold her in public? Would you shamelessly have her custody with you to conventions? Would you take her on dates? This thread is for discussing how you'd interact with your waifu outside of the home. >=== -tmp locked to dissuade derailling
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>>38100 Yes. This effect can in-part theoretically already be achieved today via AI companions. Not enough in the end for most of us, but it's a good start and (as you yourself know quite well) doable even today on relatively modest, offlined hardware! :^) Forward
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>>39127 How will this sexual reproduction work? Using artificial wombs combined with modified genes?
>>39129 Artificial wombs with AI enhancing our genome.
>>39129 >>39152 Please move it to the Arti-Wombs bread, Anons.

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Tensegrity Kiwi 04/22/2025 (Tue) 18:29:41 No.37672 [Reply] [Last]
Tensegrity Thread Tenssegrity is the purposeful application of tension in a system of non-contact components to provide integrity. These components effectively float on compression provided by tension elements. Tensegrity structures are often formed via rigid rods with a cable defining the spatial relations of the system. Picrel 1 is NASA’s Super Ball Bot, which uses the common 6 bar structure. By altering the lengths of the rods, the “ball” can roll. Please see (https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/super-ball-bot/) Our bodies use tensegrity to provide us with incredible strength, durability, and adaptability. Consider how when you bump into something or fall, you can feel the pressure dissipate throughout large parts of your body. This is due to your muscles, fascia, ligaments, etc… transferring the force throughout your body, protecting the impacted part. You can walk with little effort thanks in part to tensegrity. Your legs joints are all floating, providing low friction movement while distributing the force of impact throughout your entire leg when you step. Please see (http://intensiondesigns.ca/geometry-of-anatomy/) Tensegrity can also be made with elastic elements. These structures are what I believe are best suited for our endeavors. They provide looser tolerance requirements and give her body some squeezability. By incorporating naturally stretchable elements, she can better withstand having an Anon using her. (I speak from experience, though I still broke that torso before taking pictures.) Though there are drawbacks. These designs are deceptively difficult to design correctly. Our requirements for external aesthetics provide unique design requirements that complicate the design phase. I still believe using this concept is objectively correct for us to pursue. A good example to build off of (Debatable whether or not it’s true tensegrity): https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4182634
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>>39141 Speaking of Futurama...
>>39142 Lol. I don't recall seeing that one! :D
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>>39139 The cheaper tubes might use a poorer quality epoxy. There are no also listed msi ratings, so they are probably a made with a week low modulus fiber. The orientation and alternation of the wraps would also be a factor. The Amazon ones look to be made from tube a of loose twill weave. The three McMaster Car options have different materials. One has all the fibbers running in a single direction, one with a tighter weave, and the last has crisscrossed alternating wraps with a much high modulus fiber. >>39142 >>39143 Curse you merciful Poseidon!
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>>39145 Their pictures are terrible, but the last McMaster Car's last option is probably similar in construction to a fancy fishing rod blank. The first option probably would be a bad choice as its outer layer could potentially splinter into sharp needle-like fragments.
>>39146 This is a good point. And thanks for the reminder! I'll plan to use a safety box around when doing the skellington failure tests! Cheers. :^)

Privacy, Safety, & Security General Robowaifu Technician 04/20/2021 (Tue) 20:05:08 No.10000 [Reply] [Last]
This thread is for discussion, warnings, tips & tricks all related to robowaifu privacy, safety & security. Or even just general computing safety, particularly if it's related to home networks/servers/other systems that our robowaifus will be interacting with in the home. <---> /robowaifu/ 's standard regarding a robowaifu's physical safety : ( >>38561 ). --- > thread-related (>>1671) >=== -update OP -broaden thread subject -add crosslink -add safety-standard crosslink
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>>39030 I agree wholeheartedly, but it probably won't shut anybody down.
>>39030 Make them look bad to who? The audience largely sucks too. Most people in the West are no different from feminists in their level of hypocrisy or dishonesty. At most these others pursue different goals, and will not be persuaded to dislike feminists due to feminists being shown to be hypocritical because they themselves are the same. And more to the point, Westerners generally agree with feminist ideas even if they don't identify as feminists because feminism is so ingrained in Western culture that many core feminist ideas are now considered the core ideas of Western culture. Ideas that originated with the feminist movement are no longer recognized as such because they've been normalized through decades of propaganda, or else people are simply apathetic to the problems feminism causes because they think they aren't affected (yes, there are still plenty of people who are this stupid even after years of woke). Cuckservatives are completely onboard with every feminist policy that matters, including the prohibition of robowaifus. We have very little in the way of a potential audience that might be remotely sympathetic.
>>39032 I wouldn't be completely blackpilled, there are many zoomers who would agree with our mission
>>39032 The moment one of the robowaifus can show benefits to mentally ill homeless veterans we have an "in" The number 1 rule in American politics is "never insult the military" if these can provide help for our fallen heros discarded by the system it will be hard for anyone opposing the technology not to look like shit.
>>39034 >The number 1 rule in American politics is "never insult the military" Maybe 30 years ago. Feminists will happily discard this if it suits them, and they won't suffer political consequences for doing so because younger generations don't really respect the military.

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Cyborg general + Biological synthetic brains for robowaifus? Robowaifu Technician 04/06/2020 (Mon) 20:16:19 No.2184 [Reply] [Last]
Scientists made a neural network from rat neurons that could fly a fighter jet in a simulator and control a small robot. I think that lab grown biological components would be a great way to go for some robowaifu systems. It could also make it feel more real. https://www.google.com/amp/s/singularityhub.com/2010/10/06/videos-of-robot-controlled-by-rat-brain-amazing-technology-still-moving-forward/amp/ >=== -add/rm notice
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https://academic.oup.com/synbio/article/10/1/ysaf008/8107742 Engineering a custom-sized DNA scaffold for more efficient DNA origami-based nucleic acid data storage >DNA has emerged as a promising material to address growing data storage demands. We recently demonstrated a structure-based DNA data storage approach where DNA probes are spatially oriented on the surface of DNA origami and decoded using DNA-PAINT. In this approach, larger origami structures could improve the efficiency of reading and writing data. However, larger origami require long single-stranded DNA scaffolds that are not commonly available. Here, we report the engineering of a novel longer DNA scaffold designed to produce a larger rectangle origami needed to expand the origami-based digital nucleic acid memory (dNAM) approach. We confirmed that this scaffold self-assembled into the correct origami platform and correctly positioned DNA data strands using atomic force microscopy and DNA-PAINT super-resolution microscopy. This larger structure enables a 67% increase in the number of data points per origami and will support efforts to efficiently scale up origami-based dNAM. Big names are interested in DNA data storage and they have been for awhile now. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/dna-storage/
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.2c06748?__cf_chl_tk=7ci5gHc50BwdVV9KaVdTFOoLXgO4AEvpP4wZPpisljk-1748748618-1.0.1.1-19YnGYDN96Q7sA.rwAZAVNCc55hpBwlUvt0E7bnnUpo Emerging Approaches to DNA Data Storage: Challenges and Prospects >With the total amount of worldwide data skyrocketing, the global data storage demand is predicted to grow to 1.75 × 1014 GB by 2025. Traditional storage methods have difficulties keeping pace given that current storage media have a maximum density of 103 GB/mm3. As such, data production will far exceed the capacity of currently available storage methods. The costs of maintaining and transferring data, as well as the limited lifespans and significant data losses associated with current technologies also demand advanced solutions for information storage. Nature offers a powerful alternative through the storage of information that defines living organisms in unique orders of four bases (A, T, C, G) located in molecules called deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). DNA molecules as information carriers have many advantages over traditional storage media. Their high storage density, potentially low maintenance cost, ease of synthesis, and chemical modification make them an ideal alternative for information storage. To this end, rapid progress has been made over the past decade by exploiting user-defined DNA materials to encode information. In this review, we discuss the most recent advances of DNA-based data storage with a major focus on the challenges that remain in this promising field, including the current intrinsic low speed in data writing and reading and the high cost per byte stored. Alternatively, data storage relying on DNA nanostructures (as opposed to DNA sequence) as well as on other combinations of nanomaterials and biomolecules are proposed with promising technological and economic advantages. In summarizing the advances that have been made and underlining the challenges that remain, we provide a roadmap for the ongoing research in this rapidly growing field, which will enable the development of technological solutions to the global demand for superior storage methodologies.
Another paper on DNA origami the field is really interesting. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004223007150 Self-assembly of DNA origami for nanofabrication, biosensing, drug delivery, and computational storage >Since the pioneering work of immobile DNA Holliday junction by Ned Seeman in the early 1980s, the past few decades have witnessed the development of DNA nanotechnology. In particular, DNA origami has pushed the field of DNA nanotechnology to a new level. It obeys the strict Watson-Crick base pairing principle to create intricate structures with nanoscale accuracy, which greatly enriches the complexity, dimension, and functionality of DNA nanostructures. Benefiting from its high programmability and addressability, DNA origami has emerged as versatile nanomachines for transportation, sensing, and computing. This review will briefly summarize the recent progress of DNA origami, two-dimensional pattern, and three-dimensional assembly based on DNA origami, followed by introduction of its application in nanofabrication, biosensing, drug delivery, and computational storage. The prospects and challenges of assembly and application of DNA origami are also discussed.
This is fascinating stuff, Ribose. Molecular biology is one of my specific interests. And the Information Science crossovers are readily-apparent. Thanks for sharing! Cheers. :^)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-025-01003-z Scalable and robust DNA-based storage via coding theory and deep learning >The global data sphere is expanding exponentially, projected to hit 180 zettabytes by 2025, whereas current technologies are not anticipated to scale at nearly the same rate. DNA-based storage emerges as a crucial solution to this gap, enabling digital information to be archived in DNA molecules. This method enjoys major advantages over magnetic and optical storage solutions such as exceptional information density, enhanced data durability and negligible power consumption to maintain data integrity. To access the data, an information retrieval process is employed, where some of the main bottlenecks are the scalability and accuracy, which have a natural tradeoff between the two. Here we show a modular and holistic approach that combines deep neural networks trained on simulated data, tensor product-based error-correcting codes and a safety margin mechanism into a single coherent pipeline. We demonstrated our solution on 3.1 MB of information using two different sequencing technologies. Our work improves upon the current leading solutions with a 3,200× increase in speed and a 40% improvement in accuracy and offers a code rate of 1.6 bits per base in a high-noise regime. In a broader sense, our work shows a viable path to commercial DNA storage solutions hindered by current information retrieval processes.

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Robowaifu Programming & Learning Thread Greentext anon 04/22/2025 (Tue) 13:37:49 No.37647 [Reply]
A thread for links, examples, & discussion for software development & instruction; primarily intended to focus on Python & C++ & C . Additionally, other systems-oriented (eg, Forth, Ada); and other scripting-oriented (eg, Lua), &tc., programming language discussions are welcome. * Try to keep it practical! (ie, realworld-oriented) (eg, not Scratch language, or similar) Obviously the endgoal here ITT being discussing/providing the crafting of quality code & systems for our robowaifus. --- > threads-related: ( >>19777 ) ( >>12 ) ( >>159 ) ( >>14409 ) ( >>18749 ) ( >>4969 ) ( >>86 ) ( >>128 ) --- * Corpo-tr*on languages (+ other corpo & 'coffee du juor' languages) will be yeet'd ITT! (They have no place in serious opensource robowaifu systems discussions.)

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I mentioned zeptoforth and found a doc page and if you scroll down it has several book links telling you how to program with forth. https://github-wiki-see.page/m/tabemann/zeptoforth/wiki/Getting-Started-with-zeptoforth Here's the software. https://github.com/tabemann/zeptoforth It's set up for Raspberry Pi Pico W which is now my pick for the best, cheap, but no tariff micro-controller. Many will disagree but as far as ease of programming, speed and speed of actually creating programs I think forth run rings around C however contrary this may sound. I used HP calculators a lot so this sort of stack based RPN calculating comes natural to me. In fact once you use a HP RPN calculators all others are vile contraptions that cause nothing but trouble to use. RPN notation is smooth and follows logically all the steps of computation. I would say that programming in the large is not forth's strength as it can get hard to follow but for small stuff, which is what happens with MC, I don't think there's much that is any better. So anyways if you don't like it fine but I provided links for those that have interest.
>>38704 Thanks, Grommet! I'll think about an edit I can make to the OP ITT to better welcome other languages. Thanks for your recommendations. Cheers, Anon. :^) <---> Done.
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Smol walkthrough on getting simple inferencing up & running using llamacpp. Focuses on aspects of the C++ code itself as well. https://medium.com/data-science/llama-cpp-writing-a-simple-c-inference-program-for-gguf-llm-models-12bc5f58505f
Now that I've graduated college, what code editor and compiler should I use? When I was in college It was a requirement for me to use Visual Studios. What does /robowaifu/ recommend I use?
>>38991 Congrats, Anon!! Big event in your life, savor it. :^) >what code editor and compiler should I use? I use juCi++ & g++ [1] as my own daily-driver when I have the choice (if you don't know already, just like in Uni, your workplace will likely require you to use a specific toolchain). So, what's the big plan now, Anon? Have any personal side projects already going? Anything in mind that you want to pursue learning much-deeper in? Regardless, again congratulations. Cheers. :^) --- 1. A tutorial of sorts was created for Anons on /robowaifu/ to follow along, if they wanted to. (cf. >>4969 )

Datasets for Training AI Robowaifu Technician 04/09/2020 (Thu) 21:36:12 No.2300 [Reply] [Last]
Training AI and robowaifus requires immense amounts of data. It'd be useful to curate books and datasets to feed into our models or possibly build our own corpora to train on. The quality of data is really important. Garbage in is garbage out. The GPT2 pre-trained models for example are riddled with 'Advertisement' after paragraphs. Perhaps we can also discuss and share scripts for cleaning and preparing data here and anything else related to datasets. To start here are some large datasets I've found useful for training chatbots: >The Stanford Question Answering Dataset https://rajpurkar.github.io/SQuAD-explorer/ >Amazon QA http://jmcauley.ucsd.edu/data/amazon/qa/ >WikiText-103 https://blog.einstein.ai/the-wikitext-long-term-dependency-language-modeling-dataset/ >Arxiv Data from 24,000+ papers https://www.kaggle.com/neelshah18/arxivdataset >NIPS papers https://www.kaggle.com/benhamner/nips-papers >Frontiers in Neuroscience Journal Articles https://www.kaggle.com/markoarezina/frontiers-in-neuroscience-articles >Ubuntu Dialogue Corpus https://www.kaggle.com/rtatman/ubuntu-dialogue-corpus >4plebs.org data dump https://archive.org/details/4plebs-org-data-dump-2020-01 >The Movie Dialog Corpus https://www.kaggle.com/Cornell-University/movie-dialog-corpus >Common Crawl https://commoncrawl.org/the-data/
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>>24865 >How much of this is related to the Sci-Hub archive? It's one if their links when you search for sci articles. They have more than one link. If you go here http://libgen.rs/ click on scientific articles radio button then search. You will see the files. Open in new tab and you will see several download locations, usually. On the front page there's drop down selection for Tor.
>bots from JanitorAI https://janitorai.me (NSFW!) Looks like prompts, descriptions for waifu bots, which might come in handy for modelling personalities. > archive of ~70GB of card ... here https://chub-archive.evulid.cc/#/janitorai > You can also download the archive from here if you're interested https://pixeldrain.com/l/Yo8V2uxh
> post-related : (tiny-textbooks, >>25725)
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Not for downloading, but gathering data >>29928: >Universal Manipulation Interface (UMI) -- a data collection and policy learning framework that allows direct skill transfer from in-the-wild human demonstrations to deployable robot policies.
There's a book on I2P, which is an encrypted torrent and encrypted internet called Murachs-android-programming-training-and-reference.pdf Here's the magnet file. Which will do you no good unless you have I2P but the book may be available elsewhere. magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d3c9230976fd5b63c985288f9a2ce0a320e2d604&dn=Murach%27s+Android+Programming+-+Training+And+Reference&tr=http://tracker2.postman.i2p/announce.php BTW Clarkson's farm is on there too. I really like this show. There's a massive ton of movies, books, music, etc. in magnet files on I2P. It's where I get 99.9% of the stuff I watch.

Philosophers interested in building an AGI? pygmalion 06/26/2021 (Sat) 00:53:09 No.11102 [Reply] [Last]
Why is it that no philosophers are interested in building an AGI? we need to change this, or at least collect relevant philosophers. discussion about philosophy of making AGI (includes metaphysics, transcendental psychology, general philosophy of mind topics, etc!) also highly encouraged! Ill start ^^! so the philosophers i know that take this stuff seriously: Peter Wolfendale - the first Neo-Rationalist on the list. his main contribution here is computational Kantianism. just by the name you can tell that he believes Kant's transcendental psychology has some important applications to designing an artificial mind. an interesting view regarding this is that he thinks Kant actually employed a logic that was far ahead of his time (and you basically need a sophisticated type theory with sheaves to properly formalize). Other than that he also thinks Kant has interesting solutions to the frame problem, origin of concepts, and personhood. CONTACTS: He has a blog at https://deontologistics.co/, and also has posted some lectures on youtube like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDZyOWN4VA&ab_channel=deontologistics Reza Negarestani - this is another Neo-Rationalist. he has written a huge work (which I haven't read yet ;_;) called "Intelligence and Spirit". It's massive and talks about various grades of general intelligence. this includes sentient agents, sapient agents, and Geist. this guy draws from Kant as well, but he also builds on Hegel's ideas too. his central thesis is that Hegel's Geist is basically a distributed intelligence. he also has an interesting metaphilosophy where he claims that the goal of philosophy is the construct an AGI. like other Neo-Rationalists, he heavily relies on the works of Sellars and Robert Brandom Recc: Ray Brassier (recent focuses) - I dont think he is working on artificial general intelligence, but his work on Sellars, and in particular rule following is very insightful! Hubert Dreyfus - Doesn't quite count, but he did try to bring Heidegger to AGI. He highlighted the importance of embodiment to the frame problem and common sense knowledge. I personally think Bergson might have explicated what he wanted to achieve but better, though that guy is like way before AI was even a serious topic, lol. Murray Shanahan - This guy has done some extra work on the frame problem following Dreyfus. His solution is to use global workspace theory and parralel processing of different modules. Interesting stuff! Barry Smith - Probably the most critical philosopher on this list. He talks about the requisite system dynamics for try strong AI, and concludes that our current methods simply don't cut it. One of the key stressing points he points out here with a colleague is that our current AI is Markovian when fleshed out chat dialogue would be a non-Markovian task (you can find the arxiv link of his criticism here: https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.05833). He also has knowledge on analytic ontology (and amongst other thing has some lectures about emotion ontology). I think his main genius however is in coming up with a definition of intelligence that puts a lot of the problems with our current approaches into context (which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0giPMMoKR9s&ab_channel=BarrySmith) CONTACTS: He has a yt channel here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0giPMMoKR9s&ab_channel=BarrySmith

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>>38933 > >>38930 Well if you get an AGI/Robowaifu the implication of that is that AGIs/Robowaifus would likely constitute a new power structure within our civilization fundamentally changing the nature of that civilization Of that fact I have little doubt, Ginnungagap. However, it seems to me you're conflating robowaifus+AGI. I don't think that connection is at all a vital precondition (nor can it be, if we here on /robowaifu/ are to succeed). But first, let's build the robowaifus we can with what we have now today. Then we can think about moving on to much, much bigger fields tomorrow (say, the Solar System) (though IMHO the Robowaifu Age will need to dawn first, prior to that ginormous attempt! :D Start smol, grow big. <---> > >>38931 >>38932 15-30 years at the earliest in my opinion but almost certainly a reality by 2100 I consider this a very deep issue. I don't think there are any 'hard & fast' rules about it yet, Anon. And certainly very few givens at this stage, AFAICT.
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>>38936 I am trying to be subtle about something so here is another attempt not all Robowaifus are AGIs but all AGIs are Robowaifus
>>38937 I see. Hmm, I'm not sure I entirely follow your chain of thought on this, Ginnungagap. Can you expand that out further for me please?
>>38938 Due to certain biological realities Robowaifus may have an influence on how Human Men perceive AGIs
>>38939 >Due to certain biological realities Robowaifus may have an influence on how Human Men perceive AGIs <robowaifus will change men's perceptions That makes some sense. I have little doubt that robowaifu's arrival on the world scene (in the not-too-distant-future, all else being equal) will radically change things much for the better. For example (as I mentioned) I don't think it will be at all possible for us to succeed in our striving for the stars, until we first throw off the shackles that have been placed around the best men's necks by You Know Who. The Robowaifu Age will do just that (thus why its a precursor condition, IMO). This highly-positive effect of robowaifus on men's cognitive abilities will most certainly extend to both our pursuit of AGI, it's proper management on our behalves, and it's use to further our explorations out into the frontiers of space. >tl;dr Yes, I think I can see that position, Anon. :^)
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