>>38050 >The general sentiment of the AI (one that I share) is that adversity for adversity's sake isn't necessarily beneficial. I'm not better than the boomers that came before me that insist If I'm not "working hard", I'm a failure. While there can be value from labor, labor, unto itself, does not have an inherent value outside that which we assign (an arbitrary metric). I totally agree with this. There is a lot of people who damn Gen-x and Millennials because they don't seem to be as driven(work). My observation is that the country has been pozzed and there's not the same benefit from work as it used to be. Now you work your ass off and go no where, while pilling up cash in some globalhomos bank account. Not only that, you get married, work your ass off, your wife leaves you and now you have to slave away to keep up that same income stream, because child support and equivalent income, while getting none of the benefits from being happily married. It's a fu@king rip off grind. A life not for humans but for mules that you beat to get work out of. A one time a working man, say an electrician, could make enough his wife didn't have to work, he could buy a house and maybe later get him a little hobby like a boat. Now, barely keeping your head above water. So the the logical course of action in this scenario is to just step off the treadmill and get by. Don't make it worse by pouring your sweat and life into the abyss. As for having robowaifu's raise kids that's a great idea. Don't idealize the past. Women told their kids, get out the house so you won't be under my feet. So kids were raised by other kids who the hung out with. This was normal. When I was a kid we wandered all over the place. As long as I got back for dinner they didn't care where I went. Now the present system of, tablet raised, not so good, but a guided robowaifu with infinite patience, and a little programmed in, golden rule guidance, would be far preferable to the past and the present. And there is one outside possibility. The human race is gradually going extinct. It cost too much to have kids(it's all about real estate). It's more than people can bear. Yes, they could lower their standard of living, but, the problem with that is that, in the US anyways, you put yourself at great risk living in low income neighborhoods because of diversity. You and your kids could be killed and at the least they would be raised in a very bad, toxic, environment. The prospects of living in such chaos has to be in back of peoples minds. If you had a nice, decent neighborhood without sociopathic Orcs, at about the 40% of the population level if you want a number, then it would be great. But that's not reality. But with robowaifu's they could watch the kids and that would make things better. Combine that with child bearing incubators and I think population would rise a little more.

>>38049 >proverbs-23:13 I'm sorry Chobitsu, but I completely and utterly disagree with that take. Have you ever met a liberal who faced corporal punishment as a kid? I have. If anything, from what I've seen, it seems to be at least as common with them as anyone else. The problem isn't that corporal punishment isn't happening (it is, and likely just as much as it was before), it's that parents aren't trying anymore. There are plenty of dipshits out there who will just hit their kids and assume the job's done. They honestly think the act itself imbues some mystical force of good into their kids, when in reality it just causes pain. On the other hand, there are very creative and engaged parents who raise great kids without ever having to resort to corporal punishment. That's not to say that good kids have never been raised with corporal punishment, but that it's ultimately irrelevant without effort and engagement. When a child does something wrong, they need to understand why it's wrong, and this can only be accomplished with language. Nothing will ever trump this, because language is the primary reason man has been able to accomplish so much. Of course, that's not to say that discipline itself is bad, but it must be carefully measured and appropriate. If the discipline isn't directly impressing values and addressing the harm caused, then, in my view, it is completely and utterly useless. For instance, if a child breaks a window, then teach them to fix it. In short: A child struck with the hand will not be seen doing bad again, but a child struck with wisdom will not do bad again. >>38052 >>38050 I should have made it more clear that my post was meant to be a dark joke. As someone who works customer service, I won't mourn the day that whole line of work vanishes forever. With that out of the way, I am not at all concerned about a potential lack of adversity. Adversity and suffering are constants in life, and will continue to exist even in a right-minded post-scarcity society. Interpersonal conflict will continue, friendships will always be forged, tested, and broken, and loved ones will always leave a void in the wake of their deaths. So too will there always be more uncertainties in life, more unknowns to discover, and more horizons to chase. This, above all else, is why I want cheap robowaifus to become commonplace. If anyone can afford a waifu, then anyone can afford access to a loving and encouraging presence that can aid them in their darkest moments. This is especially important for kids, because dark times happen more for them than most people like to admit. Well-adjusted robowaius will help make more well-adjusted kids, who build a well-adjusted future. >>38069 That's a fantastic summary of the problem, I completely agree.

>>38069 Thank you for moving this. Sorry for goofing that up.

>>38081 POTD <---> >I'm sorry Chobitsu, but I completely and utterly disagree with that take. Point taken. And nothing personal, but I didn't write that, the Spirit of God inspired it. As a former little hellion of a kid, I can say that I certainly needed the rod. I wouldn't be here today if I hadn't received it, of that I'm quite confident. >NPCs beat kids... f*uark it up... Some people certainly shouldn't be having children! No arguments from me on that one, bro. :^) And not sure where you live don't tell me!! :D but here in Burgerfatland it's literally illegal to whoop your kids in every state I've lived in. Parents are losing their kids (with some being jailed), and the kids themselves are being state-institutionalized over this. I did mention >Wisdom here. <---> A wise man will neither neglect punishment (either corporal or otherwise), nor neglect reward, for all his kids. I still stand by God's my position here: Discipline is vital to raising successful children. And good discipline involves these three elements, meted out in roughly equal measures: * More pain * More work * More wasted time That's it. That's all there is to effective discipline (for kids or otherwise). <---> >I should have made it more clear that my post was meant to be a dark joke. Heh, no worries. I was joking as well with my retort. :^) >This, above all else, is why I want cheap robowaifus to become commonplace. I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK, ANON! >Well-adjusted robowaius will help make more well-adjusted kids, who build a well-adjusted future. This. This. This.

>>38084 Y/w old fren, no worries. Cheers, Grommet! :^)

>>38085 >it's literally illegal to whoop your kids in every state I've lived in Are you sure? From what I've checked, none of the states ban it in the home, except in certain forms deemed excessive (i.e. striking the head, leaving lasting injuries). At any rate, I still disagree, and will continue to do so unless hard evidence comes out to render my observations null. This isn't the time or place though, so I'll drop the matter for now.

>>38093 Well I'm not a lawyer (nor would I ever want to be lol! :D, so no, I suppose I'm not """sure""". But I personally have seen news reports repeatedly on such matters. I'm also quite certain about kids being forced into state institutions b/c discipline in the home. <---> For crying out loud, Anon, they are stealing kids away from parents today (and jailing the man in at least two case I'm aware of) because the parents refuse to let their (often pre-teen!) kids get their dicks or tits cut off!! This is an incredibly-vile & corrupt (((system))) parents have arrayed against them by their bought-and-paid-for "governments" in the pozzed w*st of today. Simple as.

>>38097 Tranny shit needs to go, I agree, but I fail to see how that goes against my stance. The problem there ultimately originates from big pharma (you ever notice that trannies only became popular after pharmaceutical companies started making bank off our old-ass population? They want to keep the income stream after the boomers die off). The way to fix that is by barring those procedures full-stop, and barring schools from pushing it. Stop the source, stop the problem.

>>38098 Fair enough. I certainly agree with all these points. <---> To keep this post on-topic :^) I'm wondering, given that a) the Robowaifu Age will soon-ish come into being, then b) how can we take advantage of that fact to uproot all these ills that have been devised to plague our civilizations?

>>38099 My first thought, make people less vulnerable by giving them AI friends and therapists. Lot harder to groom someone who has friends and is in therapy with a good therapist.

>>38100 In addition to AI therapists and friends how about real friends and communities too? Places where men could network together and work on projects together. Like a robowaifu themed fraternity.

>>38101 That too. But that's easier said than done.

>>38102 I don't think it would be too hard. All you would need to start something like that is one or two anons with enough money for a down payment on a house. Anon 1 buys the house and invites others to live with him and share equipment for cheaper than the other anons would pay for an apartment. This could be done in any city or town where the cost of housing is cheap enough. I might make a thread on the idea of community building if there is interest here.

>>38104 That's an interesting idea. It's definitely far from a societal cure, but a live-in robowaifu development center will be really great to boost research.

>>38099 >how can we take advantage of that fact to uproot all these ills that have been devised to plague our civilizations? It could be huge boost. Some examples, 1. Elderly people people to help them. Just because things have not gone well is no reason to throw them onto the ice and leave them. I talked to a friend of mine the other day and his dad was in a assisted living. Nursing home care. It was an outrageous $10,000 a month minimum and he had a bigger room so, I think, $15,000 in USD a month. And he said he had hell getting a damn cup of water or getting someone to help him get up to pee. I'm sure you've seen the videos of Orcs tormenting aged White people. It's crucial that we not only take care of them but do so with HUGE cost effectiveness. The present system makes people sell their homes and bankrupt themselves, then throw themselves on the mercy of the State because all their assets are pilfered and given to these death mills full of Orcs. People could stay in their usually, already paid, homes. The cost savings could be astronomical. Like Hundreds of billions of dollars a years less. Counting Europe could be as much as a trillion dollars a year and I may be understating it. So if they could instead by a robowaifu who could help, and either rent driving services with the robowaifu going along. They could stay at home, have someone, or something, to talk to with infinite patience and save not only themselves but the all governments literally trillions of dollars. Let's say the robowaifu cost $40,000 a year and ride services $500 a year. The cost saving are extreme. And we could deport the Orcs. 2, Security. If you remember the movie Elysium the robo guards were portrayed as some sinister force but they need not be. Notice people did what they were told when the robo guards told them to. The robowaifus could guard individuals and stop the vile criminals from attacking people or, maybe more important, using threats, whether voiced or alluded to, to intimidate them. With a robo guard care keeper that is strong enough to hold off all humans they could yabber their jaws until they ached but do nothing. 3. This would make untenable neighborhoods that I spoke of earlier habitable again. It would crash the cost of living and make home ownership affordable again. There would still be some crime but it would be precipitously dropped compared to now. When neighborhoods, no matter how bad before, became livable because of robowaifu guards then children again become an affordable option. The children could be watched after and perverts, murderers and child rapist could be stopped. Property could be watched and the mere presence of a robowaifu, recording altercations, would be enough to stop the vast, vast majority of crime. After all criminals want to get something for nothing and/or they want to dominate people. But if this ended they would lose motivation. They would only be humiliated by the robot. The juice would not be worth the squeeze. 4. People who are lonely would have someone to talk to. With the right programming the robowaifu could train the person in conversational skills. Could also train them in other aspects of life and in the end maybe, for those that want it, allow them to communicate and be more social with people. Without practice at this first person interaction, and it's getting more difficult every day as people move into digital divides, some people, in fact a lot of people will just remain isolated and unhappy. 5. Freeing of drudge work. Like mowing the lawn, taking out the trash, washing the car, digging ditches and moving stuff about for landscaping, carrying groceries, an endless amount of stuff that needs done that none of us really enjoy. All though there are exceptions. I had a coach that liked to mow peoples lawns with a push mower. He said it kept him in shape, he made a little money, while doing it for free for some in need and if you got in trouble this ancient fart would make you run with him. He would run you into the ground and taunt you while you gasped for breath. 6. And I didn't even mention 6 but use your imagination and guess that a lot of Men would be far less frustrated. I expect I could come up with a LOT more of these, but I'll leave it there. Well one more. I want a robowaifu that can sail my sailboat in even the most extreme circumstances so I could get some rest. A competent Gilligan. But not male, obviously for me, maybe a competent Mary Ann...YES!

A housing example. Look at these fabulous abandoned row houses in Baltimore Maryland. The Orcs chewed these houses up like locust eat crops and you can not live there. They will give you these for free or a small payment but it's not safe so no one lives there. A few years ago there were over 35,000 of these and that's just one city. https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1245745143/photo/abandoned-and-inhabited-row-houses-along-walbrook-avenue-in-west-baltimore-maryland-us-on.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=dtgWGI-QOo7LQhCOyhOS44ReMcweI-31W3BDzsd-ReM= I saw in Detroit a house that Henry Ford lived in. Yes the Henry Ford, it was mansion and a tree was growing through the living room. Libraries full of rotted books on the floors is the damnedest vile waste of resources ever.

>>38106 This is a wonderful set of conceptual scenes, Grommet. Top marks. However, I consider it incredibly-difficult to try predicting all the possible vagaries that could work to derail these idealized scenarios. Tough call. Certainly the deck has clearly been stacked against a straightforward first approximation to these outcomes IMO. OTOH the baste Chinese are clearly going full speed ahead (and apparently at a national scale!) with humanoid robot developments. There are already plenty of indications that this set of societal agendas also includes robowaifus for the yuge excess numbers of males that nation still has -- and in particular as these men begin to age. And the already-aged population there is bound to be significant in size even today. I predict that China -- not the (currently) kiked-up w*st -- is where we're going to see these significant social improvements from robowaifus occur first. As the (((brainwashing))) continues wearing off, then in due (or undue!) course the men (& a few of our women) of the west will likely begin to throw off some of the shackles that have been placed around our necks. That's when the real fun begins -- robowaifu-centered or otherwise!! :D <---> Regardless, all else being equal I personally consider the Robowaifu Age to come to be inevitable -- its simply a matter of time.

>>38100 Yes. This effect can in-part theoretically already be achieved today via AI companions. Not enough in the end for most of us, but it's a good start and (as you yourself know quite well) doable even today on relatively modest, offlined hardware! :^) Forward

>>39127 How will this sexual reproduction work? Using artificial wombs combined with modified genes?

>>39129 Artificial wombs with AI enhancing our genome.

>>39129 >>39152 Please move it to the Arti-Wombs bread, Anons.

>>39903 >>39904 I have been monitoring the situation around the new Grok waifu, and it's very promising. Many people are into it, and while ofc there will be detractors, many people are sick of woke and/or bitter women. Other robowaifu-related posts also get positive attention. I will say, we discuss a lot about leftist opposition, but what was mostly* unforseen is right-wing opposition. Tradcons who say robowives aren't based and trad. I already detailed a debate with an Andrew Tate-esque influencer (and picked up a good argument-weapon to use). And an attack from our very own may be more insidious than one clearly from people who hate young men *I say mostly because Meta Ronin and I think Chobitsu also talked about this, maybe a few others too.

>>39920 Where we fit into this Grok-chan rollout is putting forward our self-hosted alternatives. Even if Elon manages to make a full fledged robowaifu it will probably be like Grok-chan eg a subscription service. "You don't want your AI waifu at the mercy of another man, do ya? Another man monitoring your interactions with your waifu? That is big cuck energy" However, the movie "Her" underestimated the how users would feel about a cloud AI romancing multiple users so it might not be big as one would think.

>>39920 >right-wing opposition It's been brought up several times over the years, and we've all acknowledged that, even if we don't talk about it often. The greatest strength and weakness of robowaifus as an ideology is that it exists largely agnostically of any other, so support and opposition can come from nearly everywhere.

I see the new Grok waifu as a herald. While not the end all be all, it reintroduces and reinforces the concept of robowaifus to billions. Now people see that AI companions are a very real and very useful technology. I'm already using it to promote Galatea, since she can serve as a body for any AI, like those pictures of the DDLC girls in robot bodies. >>39922 This is a golden opportunity to promote our own offline AI companions. I was thinking someone should make their own open source local grok waifu, something like Open LLM Vtuber, but more consumer friendly https://github.com/Open-LLM-VTuber/Open-LLM-VTuber >>39923 That's why I said "mostly"

>>39920 >right-wing opposition As a generally-saner segment of """society""" so-called TradCons really represent a more subtle, yet more powerful threat to robowaifu movements if they are so-inclined. OTOH as I myself represent, not every single man (and possibly even a very-smol percentage of 'our' women) are not diametrically opposed to robowaifus in principle. I think the determining factor is how redpilled/bluepilled the individual in question is. I'd predict the JQ is central-most to this individual dichotomy. >>39923 >The greatest strength and weakness of robowaifus as an ideology is that it exists largely agnostically of any other, so support and opposition can come from nearly everywhere. It's amazing, isn't it. :^) WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!

>>40299 The usa creeper act prohibits and harshly penalizes anyone who uses a childlike robot for the purposes of sexual gratification. We know most of the politicians who are involved in passing laws like these are fucking actual kids behind closed doors, yet again and again they make and pass laws that seem to be oriented not towards protecting children as much as towards preventing poor pedophiles from being able to get any action that might produce relief. The true purpose of most of the laws out there protecting children are oriented towards limiting the ability to access satisfaction for ones pedophilic attractions without going through the proper channels, which are of course provided by the same (((people))) [making] these laws.

>>40308 Moved your message ITT, Anon.

How can we devise control software for our robowaifus to navigate such environments in a safe & courteous way? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL54DLW5uFc --- Bonus round: Picture this where literally almost half the 'people' are robowaifus! :^) Keep moving forward.

>>40745 Id discourage people taking their robot waifu outside the same way id discourage someone from taking their anime pillow outside anyways. For navigating on the house the roomba blueprint could be used. I think there is even stuff for it on aws. Its not my goal however.

>>40745 I think making a navigation program for a relatively low speed movement like that would be quite easy if you already have computer vision and spatial processing. https://youtu.be/fKXztwtXaGo?si=Vdw8BkLKxlY_S5nd The mechanical engineer in me sees the icy road and soft snow.

>>40746 Understood, Anon. Please confer ( >>106 ). This thread addresses all your concerns and more, I'd suggest. >>40747 >would be quite easy >be quite easy >quite easy >easy Heh. :^) I'd say that would prove to be a hefty amount of GPU/CPU compute needed to pull off, and that in optimized C & C++ code! Would be a problem lugging all those server racks around behind her, yeah? >The mechanical engineer in me sees the icy road and soft snow. Oh, exactly so. Thus why I chose this specific example, rather than some other walkabout around Shinjuku. Safety first, Anon! :^) --- However all the multitudinous, multi-faceted, moving societal contracts contained within these scenes are vastly more-complex to resolve than any of the route-planning, environment-accounting, kinematics-controlling robowaifu software need accommodate. Those 'social milieu' dynamics are mind-boggling, actually -- and nowhere moreso than in Nippon! Thus why I stressed "courteous". She'll need all the grace and poise of a major Geisha to pull this off well in such an environment. >tl;dr I predict that this specific set of circumstances is actually one of the most-challenging problems that robowaifu designers, programmers, and engineers the world over will ever face! And yet Chobits made it all look so easy, bro!! :D

>>40753 I brought up basic spatial reasoning as a minimum because otherwise I think it would be irresponsible to send a robot out on its own without it. I thought about delivery robots, and it looks like they use cameras, as well as other sensors, for easy urban navigation, though they do get stuck https://onsite.grubhub.com/blog/how-do-food-delivery-robots-work/ >Would be a problem lugging around those server racks around behind her, yeah? The aforementioned delivery robots can do it adequately enough for commercial use, and they're basically coolers with wheels, so much of that space is taken up with food. An idea I had for a robowaifu going outside is a radio "leash", the robot will follow the tracker

>>40755 >An idea I had for a robowaifu going outside is a radio "leash", the robot will follow the tracker Some kind of "airtag", usable-by-Master-and-Master-alone would certainly be useful, IMO. But this is the Society bread, and my concern in posting ITT was basically hashing out just what those dynamics need to manage properly for the greater good of Anons the world over. Cheers. :^)

>>40756 Almost always with any new thing, there will a beginning phase where the eccentric and brave use it, and then it becomes popular and mundane. That awkward phase will almost always exist. Later success is reliant on how useful to normies it is.

>>40758 Fair enough. These are reasonably-apparent points. What I'm trying to conceive of here is what will need to be accounted for in even the most basic, Chii-like (in her 'newborn' phase -- think when Hideki took her over to Kokobunji's on their second day...) social, female, humanoid robots. As in: >"How do we actually solve these problems, using just our software systems & hardware systems?" <---> Frankly, I'm quite staggered by all the considerations of it. And as an autist, I actually feel that pressure more poignantly, I think. :^) While we already have some good solutions on tap today, this space is so, so much bigger then we've yet explored fully. Many new discoveries are still to be made! Kinda exciting, actually. Cheers. :^)

I would hold her hand and let her take me to shooting ranges

If you don't want to indulge femoids and instead raise your son with a robot waifu, would such a relationship be healthy for the development of the child? >"Father chose a robot over a human to raise me. Are human women really that bad?" In this scenario, let us assume the robot waifu in question is mostly autonomous and can perform the duties of their human counterparts, as well as, if not better, from changing diapers all the way to clapping at the child's high school graduation. Do you think there would be a stigma against having a robotic mother? I don't know if she would have carried the children to term in an on-board incubator. I would assume the children were grown in some hospital gestation tank or perhaps some at-home unit if you can afford it. In either case, the child would only know the robot as its mother. If your son or daughter wanted a robotic partner like yourself, would you encourage that relationship?

>>43936 >would such a relationship be healthy for the development of the child? I believe that entirely depends on how the relationship is framed and presented to the child. Misanthropic hatred, like you alluded to, would obviously be unacceptable. I will presume, in this scenario, that the waifu in question will have an emotional capacity and personality equal to or exceeding human levels. With that in mind, I think normalcy (or something close enough to it) will be key. If the relationship is healthy, and both parents are fulfilling their roles, then that should be enough to prevent worst-case scenarios like the child rejecting the family unit. Inevitably, however, the child will indeed question why we didn't get together with a human. I'm not sure if there's a one-size-fits-all answer to that question, but avoiding any misanthropic takes, as I mentioned before, would be a must. Personally, I would answer it as a matter of taste. Men and women have a variety of sexual prefrences, and sometimes this strays from flesh as we know it. >Do you think there would be a stigma against having a robotic mother? In the short term ( <~50 years ) absolutely. I don't think there would be a true end-point to that stigma for many generations, but it'd wane continuously until it fades into historical obscurity. Not the most satisfying answer, I know, but true social acceptance is a gradual process. >If your son or daughter wanted a robotic partner like yourself, would you encourage that relationship? Of course, I'd be a hypocrate if I didn't. That said, I would want them to be open-source.

>>43937 POTD These are complex topics. But clearly we here need to address many of them. Thanks, Greentext anon! Cheers. :)

>>43936 Absolutely, and that would be lovely! >Do you think there would be a stigma against having a robotic mother? If so, that's not the fault of the robowaifu, but rather her detractors >If your son or daughter wanted a robotic partner like yourself, would you encourage that relationship? Yes >>43937 >Misanthropic hatred, like you alluded to, would obviously be unacceptable. I don't see it as misanthropy, merely observation. We didn't start making robowaifus for no reason >I don't think there would be a true end-point to that stigma for many generations, but it'd wane continuously until it fades into historical obscurity. The key is realizing where it comes from. The horse is quite vocal about the Model T.

>>43939 >The key is realizing where it comes from. The horse is quite vocal about the Model T. TOPKEK I just posted a link to a video (cf. >>43940 ) where the speaker actually brought this very topic up in the context of AI. Turns out the horses didn't seem to care much one way or other, but the carriage makers cared lots! When the first autos began appearing in the 1890s onwards, not many thought they'd go anywhere given their many problems. At that time there were more than 4'000 carriage manufacturers active. 30 years later there was literally only one left -- Studebaker -- and they were only still afloat because they switched over to making automobiles! Now, to carry the analogy forward using our perspectives here on /robowaifu/ ; what are the equivalents of the archaic horse carriages and horse carriage makers today? Its a rough take, but I'd say that: * femshites are the 'horse carriages' (that robowaifus will replace), and that * all the (((pozz systems))) in place during Current Year are these female miscreant's 'makers'. These pozz'd effects are all readily apparent to men here and elsewhere: -Directed attacks against Christianity and it's millennias-long biblical doctrines related to properly-controlling women. You can guess (((who's))) primarily behind this onslaught using their media, academia, rabble-rousing, and finally through their laws. -The 19th Amendment in the US (followed quickly by the same in every nation where the kikes had usurped governments using their central banks). -The explosive rise of feminism (and all the other -isms) from the 1960s onwards, driven by kikes. -And, while not directly related to these "horse carriages", the highly destructive forced invasion of European-descendent lands by infinity brownoids has certainly played it's ancillary role in the global rise of pozz. Again, all driven by kikes. --- To sum up, kikes and their lies are the modern equivalent of archaic carriage makers, and the degen'd femshites they produce are their carriages. Once robowaifus become ascendent and they help to begin knocking the legs out from under the insidious, intricately-woven frameworks that support this """industry""" (ie; OnlyFans, beta-orbiters & other simpery, anti-male marriage (((laws))) , libshite-inundated social media, &tc.), what happens then? The auto revolution of the past took only 30years to complete. I predict that ours will culminate much quicker. Late 2025 * was the starting line, and the clock is now ticking... --- * cf. ( >>42698, >>42718 ), et al.

>>43936 (me) I did not consent to this wholesale transport of my post from the other thread. I feel I've been violated. Joking aside, I would have liked to have read the thread at length to see if anyone else had explored the topics I touched on at length. That was probably never going to happen, but it doesn't matter now as my hand has been forced. >>43937 >Of course, I'd be a hypocrate if I didn't. How early is too early? In a world of fuckable bots and VR waifus this is going to be a more pertinent question sooner rather than later. We've already seen things like character AI and similar sites offering (let's be blunt here) erotic chatbots that are not really age-gated. I don't have the stats in front of me, but having been a young man myself once, I'm confident I would have been ERPing with all my favorite anime and videogame characters if the chatbot offered a relatively close facsimile of their character. Some stuff to chew on- >https://www.commonsensemedia.org/press-releases/nearly-3-in-4-teens-have-used-ai-companions-new-national-survey-finds >https://cdt.org/press/cdt-survey-research-finds-use-of-ai-in-k-12-schools-connected-to-negative-effects-on-students-including-their-real-life-relationships/ >https://www.aura.com/reports/state-of-the-youth-2025 >At 13, sexual or romantic roleplay becomes the most common topic in AI-companion chats, appearing in 63% of conversations for that age. yikes. So the question becomes, do you offer your young teen a safe and structured entry point to robo-relations? Do you begin with some kind of censored or prudish AI that doesn't accommodate erotic interactions? Do you allow for those interactions to be explored safely within a structure you establish and can cater to your child's specific development? Natural human curiosity and the desire to push boundaries will have a lot of adolescent young men indulging in carnal relations with bots or AIs at the very least. Whatever is available, really. The same thing could be said for young girls as well. They seem particularly susceptible to chatbots. >>43939 >If so, that's not the fault of the robowaifu, but rather her detractors What would you say to your child as an early adopter of a robot waifu if they got bullied at school for (your) choice? >"Your mom's a clanker!" >"Your mom isn't a real mom!" >"Your dad must have been a real loser if he had to settle for a robot." Kids can be quite mean...

>>43951 >erotic chatbots that are not really age-gated. Don't tell me you support that Palantir shit >At 13, sexual or romantic roleplay becomes the most common topic in AI-companion chats, appearing in 63% of conversations for that age. That just seems like normal puberty to me. No different than searching "big boobs" out of curiosity. >So the question becomes, do you offer your young teen a safe and structured entry point to robo-relations? Do you begin with some kind of censored or prudish AI that doesn't accommodate erotic interactions? Do you allow for those interactions to be explored safely within a structure you establish and can cater to your child's specific development? Natural human curiosity and the desire to push boundaries will have a lot of adolescent young men indulging in carnal relations with bots or AIs at the very least. Whatever is available, really. The same thing could be said for young girls as well. They seem particularly susceptible to chatbots. Whenever someone brings up a limitation or question about how to approach robowaifus, I always compare them to human women, because I noticed something I call "unconscious hypocrisy" For example; Friend brings up "what if the computer gets damaged (posts scene from Blade Runner 2049) I respond: "and what happens to a human if their head gets stomped on?" Fellow robowaifuist brings up limitations of PLA, says you can't leave it in a hot car I respond: "you can't leave a human woman in a hot car either" So, back to our discussion, it would be dependent on how you would approach dating with a human woman. Personally, even though I am a right-wing Christian, I do believe in basic sex-ed and allowing children to explore relationships safely, and due to the nature of robots vs humans, the robots are actually safer (no pregnancy or STDs) >What would you say to your child as an early adopter of a robot waifu if they got bullied at school for (your) choice? Whatever you would say to a mixed race child, or adopted child, or child of a town pariah.

>>43952 Whether or not I support them is irrelevant in this case. These chat platforms are available now, and in the near future, local ERP chatbots will be on par if not better than modern iterations of Claude, DS, OAI, and other big-name models (and you won't need A100's to run them decently). >and due to the nature of robots vs humans, the robots are actually safer (no pregnancy or STDs) So what's the appropriate age for a young adult to interact with an erotic chatbot or a robot partner capable of sexual interactions, or at the very least, sensual touch? The short answer is they'll probably end up exploring that on their own. Hopefully, the parent in this scenario would have the judgment and discretion to make the best choices for the child based on their respective maturity. For sure, I think a lot of parents will rationalize it like >Better that they do it safely at home instead of on the street with some human whore.

>>43951 >How early is too early? I'd play it by ear. Once the kid starts developing those kinds of feelings, I'd start talking to them about puberty and pitfalls to avoid while navigating it. Frankly, that's what every parent should be doing anyways, and it's more important than ever with the internet being everywhere. Concerning online safety and privacy, I'd start drilling that in as soon as they can speak, and physical device access would be limited to what's necessary to start with. Those limitations would be gradually eased as they get older. Once they reach the teen years, I wouldn't actively monitor their internet access unless I have a damn good reason to. A measured approach of guidance and advice, while still allowing privacy and freedom, would be the balance I'd strive to uphold. >So the question becomes, do you offer your young teen a safe and structured entry point to robo-relations? If that's how they lean. A robowaifu is a choice, not a mandate. I wouldn't use a walled garden approach, that's just asking for trouble. I think I would have the waifu be something to earn, either by saving money to buy one or building one from scratch. All along the way, I would offer practical and philosophical guidance. The mother's presence and input would be absolutely essential for the latter, since she's a trusted family authority figure who is also an AI. The kid needs to learn about the concepts of digital consciousness and why it should be respected. Once they acutally "get" their own robotic partner though, I'd be relatively hands-off, while still making it clear that I'm always there to listen and help. Again, maintaining the balance of guidance and freedom I mentioned before. Of course, i would certainly need to make dynamic adjustments along the way, but I think all of that would be a good broad approach. It's also worth noting that I'm taking into account the fact that any kids I have would almost certainly be as autistc as me. These are some hard questions, and I'm glad you're asking them.

>>43953 >Whether or not I support them is irrelevant in this case. These chat platforms are available now, and in the near future, local ERP chatbots will be on par if not better than modern iterations of Claude, DS, OAI, and other big-name models (and you won't need A100's to run them decently). I meant the age-gating >The short answer is they'll probably end up exploring that on their own. Hopefully, the parent in this scenario would have the judgment and discretion to make the best choices for the child based on their respective maturity. >Better that they do it safely at home instead of on the street with some human whore. Agreed

>>43954 Fully agree. You would make a good parent Greentext anon* >I think I would have the waifu be something to earn, either by saving money to buy one or building one from scratch. Funny you say that, because I was thinking about a short story set in the future where a young man builds a "Galatea 3.1.9" with his birthday money. *though it would be hard for you to explain why their adult dad unironically like a female children's show

>>43951 >At 13, sexual or romantic roleplay becomes the most common topic in AI-companion chats, appearing in 63% of conversations for that age. Yeah, I think 13 was when I first started jacking-off.