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Business and Marketing GreerTech 09/03/2025 (Wed) 21:58:34 No.41055
A thread to discuss topics such as, potential products, marketing, consumer demand, customer bases, robowaifus on the market, etc...
>>40928 >Turning towards sexual degeneracy It might seem dirty on the surface, but it's a good question. How much will average people pay for a single-purpose robowaifu, aka a sexbot? My question on >>40920 wasn't rhetorical. Both me and peteblank made good points. >>40923 is basically like how the PS2 came with an inbuilt DVD player, in an age where DVD players were expensive, so it became the most bestselling console in history. It doesn't matter if you have the best and mostest perfectest consumer invention ever, if it doesn't have what the consumers want. Just ask Betamax... My personal viewpoint is that a robowaifu at those price ranges should be able to do other tasks and provide comfort. Most people don't want to pay those prices for basically a masturbation aid that would still give them post-nut clarity depression because of the lack of emotional intimacy, however, like I said before, I could be wrong in my assessment. Marketing and consumer demand is a very important part of a robowaifu design meant for distribution and/or selling. I've said before that we will need an entrepreneurial spirit and mindset.
(copy/pasted from >>41035) I have a question, how can we stop the government from using our waifu as weapon of mass destruction and/or the corporate world from using them as slave labor ?
>>41065 (originally posted as response to >>41035) >using our waifu as weapon of mass destruction If they somehow found a way to use a robot designed for lightweight domestic use into an actual weapon of war, able to survive battlefield conditions, then they deserve it. At that point, it would probably be the Robowaifu of Theseus. >and/or the corporate world from using them as slave labor? Usually, industrial robots are specifically designed for the task they do. But if a corporation wants 500 robowaifu secretaries, that may actually be a boom. Most large companies get a lot of their money from commercial and government contracts. I heard (though I may be wrong) that Microsoft gets only a minimal amount of money from Windows, and actually gets most of their money from Azure Servers. And just ask Lockheed-Martin how well the government pays. It would also basically be free advertising, since the robowaifus will most probably be in customer-facing roles.
Price Ranges and Targets Final Project Price Ranges; Chobitsu's Economic Range (from >>3): $300-$2000 Average Gaming PC Price: $1000-$2500 Upper Gaming PC Price: $5000 Galatea v3 Approximate Price: $400-$450 Average Used Car Price in the US: ~$25,000 One thing to consider is: What can the robot do? If you have a full Mina-chan that can basically do anything a human can, then people would be more willing to spend 5-figures. There's also the question of niche vs. normie Sex doll companies can stay in business even with exorbitant prices, because they have a niche fanbase willing to spend a large amount of their salary on one. But sex dolls are not common or socially acceptable.
>>41068 >Chobitsu's Economic Range (from >>3): $300-$2000 Actually, that is the work of @Dollfan : a long-gone, much-missed, OG Mod here on /robowaifu/ . I've left it in b/c its a good goal to strive for. My own design & prototyping efforts for a bipedal gynoid keep coming in at around US$5K, and a limited one at that (eg, much less capability than a dear Mina-chan might have). OTOH, I think the US$300-$2'000 mark is actually a feasible-ish goal for a "Cart Waifu" ( >>38036 ) if we keep it really barebones (making some things from cardboard for example), and given enough design & research time. My own estimates rn for my own in-proc prototype for this one is about US$1'200 ; with one arm; a yuge battery (like ~2 day's nominal running time, on-and-off); various electronics including for speech & vision & dual-wheel drive controls. So yeah, not super cheap, but not bad either. I believe this effort could be marketed in a smol way, given enough refinement. (This will likely be one I prototype post about, once its working. Dear Sumomo-chan is on hold until after school now.) >tl;dr I'm personally going for one of @Kiwi's Cart-waifus ATM. I think it offers the best bang for the buck rn, utility wise. It also offers a pretty-expansive base platform from which to flesh out the systems software needed -- which can then serve in any robowaifu model going forward (cf. Robowaifu Foundations, >>14409 ).
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 09/04/2025 (Thu) 05:22:08.
>>41074 >My own design & prototyping efforts for a bipedal gynoid keep coming in at around US$5K, and a limited one at that (eg, much less capability than a dear Mina-chan might have). >OTOH, I think the US$300-$2'000 mark is actually a feasible-ish goal for a "Cart Waifu" ( >>38036 ) if we keep it really barebones (making some things from cardboard for example), and given enough design & research time. I think a cart waifu would be a great starting point with current technology. Use a more refined custom cart for the LeRobot, put a torso on that cart, with the arms mounted, and a head, and you have a great Robowaifu Mk. I. If you have a flatter base, you can do what I did with Galatea, and have a humanoid body, but one that can roll around. As you said, walking would basically be a very expensive feature. Unless it can actually handle all terrain (jn a house and on the street), then I think it would raise the cost more than the benefit
Galatia as is has no features of a sex bot though. If you wish to speed run through it you can slice a sex doll(i recommend a hot wire on a tpe sex doll) But the price does sting though.
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>>41080 You have clearly never read my posts and instructions. She does have those features, I even made a custom "Pleasure Unit"
I am wanting to start a nonprofit tutoring company geared towards vets and first responders to further education for the cause.
>>41131 like red cross? they do classes where you learn first aid and how to correctly jump out of a helicopter if it starts rolling(was on an oil rig)
>>41133 No more for STEM related tutoring and DIY projects
>>41131 >>41134 Neat! I can highly-recommend both of these non-governmental organizations, Ribose: https://nationsfinest.org/ https://www.ourheroesdreams.org/ --- By "the cause" I'm presuming you mean robowaifus? If so, be aware most of these guys are a) generally older (30yo+); b) often have families (and all the issues surrounding that condition). Good luck, Anon. :^)
How long is it going to be before we get a robowaifu that can sing and dance like a pop star? There's a lot of money to be made from that, money that can go toward more waifubot projects.
>>41159 Singing would probably be easy, vocaloid has been a thing for almost two decades, and TTS AI is getting very good. The problem with movement is that popstars often have rapid movements that require some dexterity. Maybe a more subdued performance can work.
Design Principle: ''Be Nice to Normies" If you want your design to mainstream to change society, you need to make it friendly to normies, or at least patient normies. It needs to be easy to learn and use. It can't be too esoteric. Also, you need to make your documentation and instructions clear as possible. Try to add pictures and a readable font. No more text walls. Some good inspirations are Ikea manuals and hobby kits.
How can we all take advantage of this tech to produce cheap robowaifu kits for men around the globe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJltHrMWoas
>>41172 POTD Given my ambition to see everyman around the globe have the freedom to construct his own waifu companion as he sees fit, this principle is of utmost importance IMO. Even back before I attempted starting a RDD ( >>3001 ) for us here, I was trying to think about the question: >"How do you a) squeeze in all the technical instruction for something so complex as building a fully-working, fully-autonomous, life-sized, IRL humanoid robot kit; and b) dumb down both the process and the training material enough, so that even sub-80 IQ men can manage it themselves?" Tough challenge, tbh.
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>>41179 >related: Does anyone recognize what this software is? https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#1249
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>>41208 Looks like some sort of 3D CAD
>>41179 Injection molding needs professional expertise/software. Flow of the molten plastic needs to be accurately predicted and modeled to make sure it fills out the mold and doesn't solidify with any voids or gaps. You also need to design the parts around avoiding warping etc.. Large pieces might need to be reinforced with glass fibers and that further complicates things. Creating the tooling will also cost thousands of dollars for every part. It would be a very expensive thing to start doing. The high startup costs are the reason you see smaller companies start out selling 3d printed parts before making larger investments.
>>41214 Yeah, seems so to me as well. Some kind of parametric modeler, I presume. I think I'm comfortable with promoting FreeCAD here, now that v1.0 is finally released. Its a major leap forward for opensauce CAD tools, I think. (cf. >>34465, ...) Blender 4.5 is getting closer to being a CAD tool as well, I think. Super stoked about it tbh. <---> I'm starting to think that maybe we should approach the plastic kit manufacturing companies (both in that city in Japan, as well as others in China), to utilize their expertise in helping us produce injection-molded robowaifu kits. I know that given enough time, we could solve this ourselves. But it seems more-reasonable to try to leverage their decades-old expertise with these things, to help move our own efforts forward. Obviously they'd want a big wad of cash (mostly upfront, I'd say) if we just want to hand them the whole soup-to-nuts effort. I wonder what else we ourselves can do instead to keep most of the effort in our own ball field, and simply contracting the final mold-making / kit-production off to them?
>>41220 Great advice, Anon! Please feel free to critique this post ( >>41221 ) as well -- I posted it before seeing yours. Cheers. :^)
>>41222 >>41221 Designing a part in a basic CAD program is defiantly not sufficient for manufacturing. I'm sure you could send files to a factory that does custom molding, but they would absolutely need to redesign and rework them. Also, a model kit company would have equipment centered around small molds and parts and would probably not be the way to go.
>>41225 That said, if you wanted to go down the rabbit hole of getting molding CAE software you certainly could. You would need to have exacting knowledge about the polymer to be used as well.
>>41225 >>41229 Thanks kindly, Anon! Yeah, material flow is surely an important consideration. >a model kit company would have equipment centered around small molds and parts and would probably not be the way to go. I actually have a little experience in this area. Large-a*rse moulds are made (though quite expensive), so it's a possibility. Again, great inputs Anon. Cheers. :^)
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 09/07/2025 (Sun) 18:08:38.
>>41271 >are made I'm not sure I understand. All molds are custom made? A bigger mold would require a larger molding machine at some point and I would assume pumping pressures for the molten plastic could change pretty dramatically. Also the robot arm that extracts the model parts would be set up to work with that specific rectangular shape model pieces come in. Whatever they plastic model use is also brittle and weak based on my limited experience.
>>41311 >>41311 >All molds are custom made? I guess in some sense, yes. But that wasn't what I meant. The factory I worked at part-time during studies had 2m+ -sized products. The big steel hot-plates press that they used seemed like a behemoth to me, probably 4+ m^2. They contracted a company in Germany to manufacture the big steel mould plates (2 per item). They were quite expensive -- probably US$250K+ per set, delivered (and installed, I think).
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We should market an ideology along with robowaifu. Part of the reason distributism never caught on was the lack of women. I feel like we can engineer around that.
>>41329 Intredasting. I don't trust (((the State))) as far as I could spit a rat; but the concepts seem intriguing otherwise. :^) >We should market an ideology along with robowaifu. Definitely. I think this is commonly known as (((brand lifestyle))) in the biz. >Part of the reason distributism never caught on was the lack of women. I feel like we can engineer around that. Howso? I'm not disputing that view, I'm simply ignorant of the issues surrounding the general topic, including that one.
>>41335 >Howso? I'm not disputing that view, I'm simply ignorant of the issues surrounding the general topic, including that one. During the heyday for distributism women didn't come to the meetings. They were more interested in the sufferagette movement.
>>41335 The state is a necessary evil and we would need a return to a guild system to make it work.
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>>41329 I absolutely love the 4chan post, and it's basically GreerTechism. What flag is that?
>>41345 Technodistributism and I wrote that post.
>>41349 >and I wrote that post. Nice!
We need to figure out how to properly-manipulate the press for our benefits. Here's one of the best business success stories in that context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ol8ZSE-PEk >tl;dr We may not like (((journos))), but we can go ahead and manipulate them anyway, I think. :^)
>>41329 > related : ( >>41384 )

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