>>44790 >I think we have slightly different ideas of what "promoting" means, but I get what you're going for. I'm willing to entertain alternative wording, as I indicated. >I still think this is a bit too heavy-handed. Whether it seems so or no, I specifically worded this to be as vague on the topic as reasonable (in accord with @Kiwi and your own positions): >"promote" Subject to lots of interpretations (to a fault). >"weaponry" While (hopefully) rather more-specific, still contains some ambiguity. >>44787 >What's "it" in this reply? >>44790 ^

>>44792 I was thinking of "promoting" as coming from the intent of the poster, rather than the actual attached material. An ad is still a promotion though (even if it's not being used to advertise), so while it might not be a perfect word, it's the best for this case. Plus, it's not unusual for us to discuss where a rule starts and ends whenever a new scenario comes up anyways, so it all works out. To wrap this all back around: What should we do about the posted ads that started this? We could delete them per the rule, or leave them up as context for it. Personally, I'm in favor of the latter.

We have enough censorship out there, now we have to deal with it in here

>>44795 Please understand, this is nothing to do with you personally, GreerTech. And I have been censoring things here for years (chaos would (((quickly ensue))) otherwise, of course). This just happens to be the latest hot topic. >>44794 >I was thinking of "promoting" as coming from the intent of the poster, rather than the actual attached material. Yes, I agree with that. >Personally, I'm in favor of the latter. I agree. Let's leave them be. >Plus, it's not unusual for us to discuss where a rule starts and ends whenever a new scenario comes up anyways, so it all works out. Fair enough. <---> @Kiwi , @Greentext anon: Any suggested wording changes to the rule #3?

>>44782 Elegant and succinct, nicely put. >>44783 >>44785 This should be an edge case. If sufficient context is given in relation to robowaifu endeavors, it should be acceptable. >>44794 Looks like we agree, though I believe context beyond implications of where it's posted are needed. >>44798 >3 : Don't promote weaponry, all posts featuring weapons must clearly be in service of robowaifu. This way, nuance is made clearer. I'd also add something along the lines of non-vehicular weaponry must be spoilered. Tanks and planes are less likely to be problematic than a pistol in terms of public perception.

>>44798 >>44799 >Please understand, this is nothing to do with you personally, GreerTech. And I have been censoring things here for years (chaos would (((quickly ensue))) otherwise, of course). This just happens to be the latest hot topic. Okay I understand. I agree with the current interpretation of the rule. I'm glad we cleared this up. When I post any advertising inspiration in the future (of any type), I will make sure to label it, as well as explain what in the pictures inspire me.

>>44799 >3 : Don't promote weaponry, all posts featuring weapons must clearly be in service of robowaifu. I like this wording, and I think this should be the final rule. It has the spirit of the law, but it doesn't unnecessarily hamper us.

>>44799 >3 : Don't promote weaponry, all posts featuring weapons must clearly be in service of robowaifu. I think that wording just makes the rule look like it's contradicting itself. If we expand on the wording of the original rule: >"Don't promote weaponry. Concepts derived from weaponry may be acceptable, but must be nonviolent." Would carry the spirit of the rule much more clearly in my opinion. That said, I'm also fine with the original wording. There's a merit to keeping it short and simple, as Chobitsu said earlier.

>>44802 There's no contradiction whatsoever. Posting something isn't necessarily a promotion of something, especially when it's looked at from an academic lens. Anything that helps the cause of robowaifus should be allowed.

>>44803 Take another look at Kiwi's proposed wording and consider this: What does "in service of" mean if the thing serving (a weapon) isn't allowed? How does a post serve a robowaifu without promoting a weapon, if the post "features" both? It looks contradictory. My own proposed wording stresses nonviolence and that we only need and allow "concepts". This, in my opinion, clarifies what does and does not constitute an acceptable post. >Posting something isn't necessarily a promotion of something I don't disagree, but posting an actual weapon is still banned, hence why I used "concepts".

>>44804 >How does a post serve a robowaifu without promoting a weapon, if the post "features" both? >but posting an actual weapon is still banned Because we're not liberal school teachers, so we can obviously see a weapon without it being a promotion

>>44804 >How does a post serve robowaifu >It looks contradictory. By helping the cause of robowaifu, it's not that difficult. Kiwi's wording still follows the spirit of the law without being too draconian and allowing for common sense to prevail. Your wording will inevitably create conflict in the future

>>44805 Again, I don't disagree. I've already made my position on the matter clear. Regardless, Chobitsu has made it crystal clear that no weapons are to be posted. >>44806 My intent here is to make sure the rule as it exists is conveyed clearly. No matter what the wording is, the actual rule and its enforcement won't change unless Chobitsu changes his mind. That means no weapons.

>>44807 I'm fairly certain Chobitsu is not a liberal school teacher

We had this solved. No need to further complicate it and change the rule any further

>>44808 That isn't even remotely what I was saying or implying, please don't twist my words like that. I can't think of any way to make the matter as it stands any clearer, so I'll just leave it there.

>>44799 Thanks! :) >must be spoilered. Honestly, that was mostly just an accommodation towards @GreerTech in the specific case, given the fact he wasn't intentionally violating a known in that case. My original intent was to baleet them, but you and @Greentext anon convinced me otherwise. But basically, I simply don't want unequivocated weaponry displayed here at all. Again, there are literally 1'000s of forums celebrating that. Why should we contribute to it here? >>44802 >I think that wording just makes the rule look like it's contradicting itself. I have to agree. The essense of the new rule should be to clearly suppress weaponry here on /robowaifu/ . >>"Don't promote weaponry. Concepts derived from weaponry may be acceptable, but must be nonviolent." I agree that would be more-clear, while still maintaining some flexibility of interpretations. >>44804 >My own proposed wording stresses nonviolence and that we only need and allow "concepts". >This, in my opinion, clarifies what does and does not constitute an acceptable post. Agreed. >>44800 >I'm glad we cleared this up. >>44809 >We had this solved. No need to further complicate it and change the rule any further LOL. No we haven't, Anon. That's why we're having this council rn. >>44803 >Posting something isn't necessarily a promotion of something, especially when it's looked at from an academic lens. That's a fair point. >Anything That's a big word! :D We clearly can't go anywhere near that far, and maintain the spirit of the rule itself (ie, 'Don't promote weaponry here'). >>44806 >Your wording will inevitably create conflict in the future I think its rather the opposite, tbh. >>44808 Please give such hand-waving a rest, GreerTech. You're not helping with that, and it's insulting to the rest of us quite frankly. Your opinion matters and we're all considering it, rest assured. <---> @Kiwi Comments on @Greentext anon's suggested wording : ( >>44802 )?

>>44811 >We clearly can't go anywhere near that far, and maintain the spirit of the rule itself (ie, 'Don't promote weaponry here'). IMO, if it helps the cause of robowaifus without being illegal or immoral, it should be allowed. And as me and Kiwi pointed out, there is a huge gap between small arms/non-vehicle weapons, and planes/boats. One is a hot-button issue, the other is mostly uncontroversial and generally seen as cool. Even before this controversy, there was a Handheld Plasma Blaster Tactical Multitool that I made, that I refrained from posting here, because I understand not wanting small arms. But under this total blanket ban, my little brother's room would be forbidden because it has an F-22 poster on it >Please give such hand-waving a rest, GreerTech. You're not helping with that, and it's insulting to the rest of us quite frankly. Your opinion matters and we're all considering it, rest assured. The reason I say things like that, is because Greentext anon acts like anything remotely tactical is like a vampire seeing a cross. It's like going to a history museum or reading a history book. What's next, banning people because they ate their poptart in the shape of a gun? It would be very tragic and disappointing if /robowaifu/ becomes so strict, that this video becomes forbidden https://youtu.be/rrj8ZjcsKWA

>>44800 Great >>44802 >"Don't promote weaponry. Non-violent concepts derived from weaponry can be acceptable. I agree my initial variant was clunky. I think this new one is best. >>44804 I agree, I worded it poorly. This breakdown was helpful. I hope lessons learned from it help me write with greater clarity in the future. >>44811 >I simply don't want unequivocated weaponry displayed here at all. >>44812 I worry you're letting your emotions cloud your judgement and interpretation of what's written. We are still in arbitration with respect to this new rule and its proper usage. Please, have patience and afford your fellows grace. I assure you, no one here wants to go as far as you are implying. I understand and on some level, appreciate your passionate fervor. But, your brothers room wouldn't be forbidden for having an F22 poster, I also have an F22 poster. Neither of our rooms are allowed here unless they serve the greater cause of open-source robotics.

When I was a kid, I remember being shocked that there were domestic robots, but in the past, and wondered why there wasn't a modern version. Now, I made a robot of my own. https://youtu.be/tK6sqxT0ttQ

Thanks for your comments. Unless there's anything else then, I'll consider this council closed. I'll update the revised wording I've decided on this weekend sometime.

alogs /robowaifu/ shills "lol u can't get a gf" Trashchan /robowaifu/ shills https://youtu.be/A030wZ8kjyQ

>>44834 LMAO. I'm simply enjoying you're are troles too much rn to drop the banhammer on him. :D

I've been planning on dedicating my PC to running an AI and as much other offline functions as possible. (I just ) I'm trying to use the internet less in general. And recently I cam across a video called "This doomsday tech kit can run offline and off-grid, indefinitely" https://youtu.be/wAf0UVUhAD4 which I figured might contain a few things worthwhile that might be worth considering for my offline setup. And I did, but like every other channel that makes shit these days, he has to use a 3D printer, eating-up a big chunk of runtime, all for the sake of making... a box that's worse than a protective case he could have just bought off the shelf. I still haven't bought a new PC, but I got tired of waiting and moved all my old PC stuff to external drives and installed Pop!_OS. I'm only using wimpy laptop for internet stuff for now, and will keep the PC completely air-gapped past the initial setup. Besides music, movies, books, maybe some old games I want to run an AI as a sort of virtual waifu prototype, even if just a fairly simple AI companion like >>44816 but on a desktop. In time I'd like to reduce the number of things I'd need a keyboard and mouse for, relying entirely on cameras and mics, but I don't really know where to start. I thought I had more detailed plans in a document, but everything I've written is such an unorganized mess that I don't even really know what to do anymore other than transfer files to the PC after installing all the software I think I might need. The problem is I don't know what I might need anymore.

>>44859 POTD Welcome to the club, Anon! :D >The problem is I don't know what I might need anymore. I'd suggest -- for now -- that you don't be discriminating; get several YUGE harddrives, and just SAVE.EVERYTHING.ANON. May God bless us all here on /robowaifu/ . Cheers. :)

>>44860 >Welcome to the club, Anon! :D I've been posting here for years now... >I'd suggest -- for now -- that you don't be discriminating; get several YUGE harddrives I've been picking-up a new 5TB drive every few years now it seems. But I'm saying the last time I even tried to run an AI was so long ago that I've completely forgotten what to even do.

>>44861 I meant Team Data_Hoarders_R_Us ! :D >But I'm saying the last time I even tried to run an AI was so long ago that I've completely forgotten what to even do. Ahh, understood. Welp, start with the very link you provided, then grow from there I'd say. Also, there are numerous links and advice (mostly-dated now, I'd say) in our own AI-related threads. But there's probably hundreds if not thousands of tutorial-oriented posts on the Internet now on-topic with this. My struggles in the past with the dependency hell of Python has soured me to the language (at least for big libraries usage within it) such that I personally don't even look into anything that majorly requires it now. (Which, sadly, is 99.9% of the solutions out there, it seems.) >tl;dr Stick with AI solutions that are so-called "Edge Computing" -oriented, and you should be fine (these will likely always be C++ or C based, for obvious reasons). BTW, glad you're still with us, whoever you are! Cheers, Anon. :)

>>44859 >I'd like to reduce the number of things I'd need a keyboard and mouse for Have you tried looking into accessability software? Speech-to-text is a very mature field, and eye tracking and/or gestures could be used in place of finer mouse movements if you need to manipulate something directly. These can potentially help fill the gap by letting you do what your waifu can't (yet) while still removing a keyboard and mouse from the equation. It might also be possible to have her integrate with those tools, though I wouldn't be sure where to start with that. Aside from that, the best advice I have is to start small and just worry about getting one thing to work, then going from there.

>>44863 Great advice, Greentext anon. BTW, I've always liked that pic. That one specifically seems a newer version from the one I think I rember back in the day. Cheers, Anon. :)

>>44859 Go to the Internet Archive and download many books. Make sure to download medical texts, survival texts, and basic repair texts >>44863 I would advise against it. I would know, because I have tried it myself. You think it's going to be Star Trek and super cool, but it quickly turns into having to talk to yourself like a crazy person to your computer. Ironically, it feels much slower and limiting than just using keyboard+mouse. No more casual computer use, now you have to talk like you're commanding someone else using the computer. This is why, despite speech to text being a mature field like you said, keyboard+mouse reigns supreme.

>>44865 Dissapointing, but predictable. Even now, I still can't help but get wrapped up in the feeling that things should be more advanced than they are. Thank you for the advisory. Thinking about it a little more, there is a comfortable middle-ground here. Instead of forgoing wireless networking entirely, one could have a closed wireless network, with the computers controlled by a tablet. It isn't terribly difficult to source an older Windows tablet (or a new one, if you're willing to shell out the requisite cash), and it's easy to install Linux on most of them, plus touchscreen UI has gotten quite good on Wayland. Not very futuristic, like that anon's hoping for, but it'd be easy enough to set up and there are mountains of documentation and very well polished programs to make everything as seamless and stable as possible.

>>44863 >>44866 My whole project here is to use holograms to create a waifu, but holograms could have many more uses than just this. You could use them as a generalized control system. I've been thinking that maybe instead of trying to build a full holowaifu at first, I should step back and do something more mundane with them as a foundation, and hope I can build a waifu on top of that. I've been looking for a use for holograms that makes them a killer app, but it's slow going; a lot of it ends up turning out to be a meme like VR.

>>44866 Yeah, it is disappointing. I wouldn't want to completely dissuade anyone from trying it out, but I do want to temper expectations >Even now, I still can't help but get wrapped up in the feeling that things should be more advanced than they are. That's for two reasons 1. Profit Motive/Degradation of society 2. The inventors lament I've thought about how a Galatea style robowaifu could've been done a decade ago with pre-LLM chatbots, same with my AutoDoctor, but that's the task of an inventor, making stuff that hasn't been made before

Please confer this important topic: https://trashchan.xyz/meta/thread/1774.html#1778 This is important for the entire webring, not just Trash. >tl;dr kikes mean to kill anything on the open web not under their (((thumb))). they intend to use WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE JUST THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?111 (((legislators))) to accomplish it. While this isn't anything new for this cabal of wretches, this seems to have traction rn that other attempts in the past didn't. Cheers, Lads. :)

>>44869 Wasn't it actually yesterday for them? They're GMT+9, so if they released on 7/7 for them it would still be 7/6 for us. But I'll make some time to watch it eventually, I just don't hold out much hope for it because the anime industry is getting so pozzed these days. >>44870 This might be why the 4chan jannies have been extra trannytastic lately.

Are we back? That certainly was a thing.

>>44875 Yup. We're back. :)

We're so back

>>44877 >digits FeelsGood.jpg

The Robowaifu Scale How close is the subject to a robowaifu? Physical Body 1. No Physical Form 2. Non-anthropomorphic design 3. Minimal Anthropomorphic Design 4. Humanoid 5. More Mecha than Human 6. More Human than Mecha 7. Human Appearing AI 1. Nothing, 2. Simplistic Non-Verbal Interaction 3. Simple Interaction 4. Basic AI 5. Medium AI 6. Powerful AI 7. AGI 8. ASI Optional, Function Code C - Cognitition and Computation M - Multipurpose S - Showcases and Demonstrating X - Primarily Sex Some examples are; Galatea: 4, 4, M SPUD: 4, 4, S Xara: 1, 6, C (PS: Which sounds better, "Kiwi-Greer Scale", or "Greer-Kiwi Scale"?)

>>44879 Some fictional examples 2B: 7, 7 Murder Drones Character: 4, 7 Emmy the Robot: 4, 7 GLaDOS: 2, 8 Star Trek TNG Computer: 1, 8

>>44862 Now that I've installed Pop!_OS (and all the NVIDIA driver BS mostly figured out) I got Claude and ChatGPT to suggest things to install: >Ollama >Qwen3 8B >Gemma3 12B >Vosk >OpenWakeWord >Piper TTS >OpenCV >MediaPipe >face_recognition >DeepFace >open-rppg >ChromaDB >OpenVT I'm also going for PrivateGPT and GLM-5.2, but I'm struggling to figure out what would be good for making realistic video clips and making pictures look like anime. >>44863 >Have you tried looking into accessibility software? I'm not going to stop using keyboard/mouse entirely, but I like the idea of using accessibility software for things like speech synthesis, since it's probably faster, less resource intensive, and more consistent than AI-generation currently is. But I'm still going to install Vosk and Piper TTS for now. >>44865 I'm also planning on downloading tons of patents & patent applications, offline wikipedia, a big archive of every time the jews were behind something sinister, as well as finding published papers containing relevant key words, and here are Dewey Decimal Classes for books that may contain practical info that might help an AI to build better hardware or write better software: 000-009 Computer science, information, and general works 020-029 Library & Information Sciences 030-039 Encyclopedias & books of facts 330-339 Economics 400-429 Language 500-509 Science 510-519 Mathematics 530-539 Physics 540-549 Chemistry 600-699 Technology 130-139 Parapsychology and occultism 150-159 Psychology 300-329 Social Sciences 570-599 Biology Of course not every book would be valuable, but if I reference a book, or a book/paper references another book/paper, then it should be added to a list of what to get.

>>44879 >>44880 Sounds kinda like that 8-tier "choose your robowaifu infograph? I think your numbering system is different though. >>44881 Please keep us up to date on your progress with this new setup of yours.

>>44882 It was inspired by that. However, I wanted to reverse the numbers to have it rise to a hypothetical (and subjective) "perfect robowaifu". I also decided to add the purpose/design focus codes to further categorize robowaifus

>>44883 I like your more-rigorous & intentional approach, GreerTech. Cheers. :)

>>44882 The past few days I've basically just been trying to figure out what's wrong with the PC. It started with a bunch of files (porn) getting corrup while transferring from my external to a SSD. Then I had a 1TB internal HDD that I hadn't really touched in a long time not get recognized after I formatted it, so I ran an error check trying to figure out what's wrong with it, and it took 27 hours to check 1/4 of it before everything froze, and there were a lot of bad sectors. I also had no idea why I got weird glitches during boot-up, for a while I got rainbow static, or ~80% of the screen was black and the remaining ~20% was white. And occasionally get a big rainbow staic box around the cursor, and once it simply didn't boot right at all. The only damn reason I picked PopOS was because I thought I wouldn't have to struggle with a bunch of driver-related bullshit. As far as Claude and ChatGPT have been able to tell me is because it's because of drivers and running the wrong kernel on startup. Everything about this is driving me crazy, because I can't seem to do anything right, spending hours typing cryptic bullshit into the terminal. I apparently needed to install Python so all the other shit that I want to install would actually work, but now there's no room on the 3x 256GB SSDs, because I guess it tried to install everything in the same partition as the OS or something. And I can't even rearrange the goddamn desktop icons without needing to look-up how to get them to stop auto-arranging. I swear, I have this exact same kind of experience every few years, which is why I've always gone back to Windows. At least my GabeCube came in the mail, so I do have a new PC now, but I only had one monitor, so it's plugged into an old TV I never had a use for. I don't really even game that much anymore, but I just can't be fucked to build a new PC ever again. But at I guess I'll try installing SteamOS on the offline PC too, which at this point has probably seen the PopOS re-installed a dozen fucking times on it this past week. And if I can't stomach that, then I'm going back to Windows 10.

>>44895 I'm sorry to hear you're struggling so with everything. I'd personally recommend starting over with a clean install of Manjaro. I think you're far less likely to have driver issues with Arch Linux (it's a rolling release), and the packaging of it all in the user-friendly format of Manjaro is a combo that's hard to beat in my experience with it (several years at this point). Glad to hear about your new cube! Hopefully you won't have to fiddle much with that. Good luck, Anon. Again, please keep us all up to date with how things are going for you. Cheers.

>>44895 I noticed that when moving a lot of files from my phone to an external hard drive, it starts throwing bitchfits. Maybe it's something similar. About the OS, I would recommend Linux Mint

>>44899 >Mint Based. I began my first couple of year's journey with Mint. :)

/sw/ lives again! :) https://trashchan.xyz/sw/index.html